Anyone won a school appeal?
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Last post: 10/07/2022 at 8:44 pm
Anonymous
11/03/2014 at 8:20 am
If so on what grounds? I need some help me with my appeals.
Anonymous
12/03/2014 at 8:37 pm
Hi Rebecca,
Can you tell us a bit more about your situation? It might help people when they are thinking about replying.
People do win appeals and if you feel that you need to do it for whatever reason it is important that you do. I hope that someone has been through this process comes along and offers you some advice.
Good Luck
Felicity
Can you tell us a bit more about your situation? It might help people when they are thinking about replying.
People do win appeals and if you feel that you need to do it for whatever reason it is important that you do. I hope that someone has been through this process comes along and offers you some advice.
Good Luck
Felicity
Andrew B(42)
12/03/2014 at 10:22 pm
Secondary reasons are an error where the child should have been offered a place or the policy was not legal.
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Anonymous
12/03/2014 at 10:30 pm
Hi Rebecca,
There is a lady called Angela O on another thread called Anybody Else Waiting For Secondary school Place. Angela won her appeal and offers her help on that thread. Sounds like she really knows what she is on about.
Take a look on there, could be quite useful!
There is a lady called Angela O on another thread called Anybody Else Waiting For Secondary school Place. Angela won her appeal and offers her help on that thread. Sounds like she really knows what she is on about.
Take a look on there, could be quite useful!
Angela O(79)
12/03/2014 at 10:44 pm
In answer to
Andrew B(42)
Secondary reasons are an error where the child should have been offered a place or the policy was not legal.
That's not true. I won my appeal last year, there was 76 appeals for this school and I came 1st
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 12:31 am
In answer to
Angela O(79)
That's not true. I won my appeal last year, there was 76 appeals for this school and I came 1st
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
Sorry, if you don't mind me asking, on what grounds was your appeal granted?
Andrew B(42)
13/03/2014 at 1:40 am
This was for Hill crest I believe?
Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 5:43 am
In answer to
Angela O(79)
That's not true. I won my appeal last year, there was 76 appeals for this school and I came 1st
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
How do you come first in an appeal? I thought each appeal was either granted or rejected?
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 7:58 am
Are you talking about winning an appeal to get tour place in secondary school.
If so my dad won my place through appeal.
If so my dad won my place through appeal.
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Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 8:41 am
In answer to
Angela O(79)
That's not true. I won my appeal last year, there was 76 appeals for this school and I came 1st
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
There was no illegal policies and no errors in the application process. I won as I worked my T**ts off and I learnt the whole appeal process off by heart so there was nothing I couldn't answer and I knew everything I could know.
Also if you won an appeal with no grounds simply by playing the system (which appears to be what you are saying) that sounds incredibly unfair and unreliable system!
Where do people think these school places come from for unlimited appeals?
The line has to be drawn somewhere.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
Where do people think these school places come from for unlimited appeals?
The line has to be drawn somewhere.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
Can't find your answer?
Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 10:08 am
All I know is that you will not win a primary school (Reception / key stage 1) appeal unless you can prove the LA did not apply the school in questions admission policy correctly and had they done so you would have been offered a place. Therefore even if you can prove an error you would only win the appeal if that error had resulted in your child not being offered a place.
I took legal advice on this and was advised that it is not so much an appeal as a review (for this stage because of the 30 rule which is law for this age group). Obviously if the class is under 30 then you would have a case but then you would also have a place and would not be appealing.
I took legal advice on this and was advised that it is not so much an appeal as a review (for this stage because of the 30 rule which is law for this age group). Obviously if the class is under 30 then you would have a case but then you would also have a place and would not be appealing.
Angela O(79)
13/03/2014 at 10:46 am
In answer to
Anonymous
Also if you won an appeal with no grounds simply by playing the system (which appears to be what you are saying) that sounds incredibly unfair and unreliable system!
Where do people think these school places come from for unlimited appeals?
The line has to be drawn somewhere.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
Where do people think these school places come from for unlimited appeals?
The line has to be drawn somewhere.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
Sorry but how does it look like I was playing the system, I won my appeal because I had a good case, I won my appeal because I knew what I was doing.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 11:52 am
In answer to
Angela O(79)
Sorry but how does it look like I was playing the system, I won my appeal because I had a good case, I won my appeal because I knew what I was doing.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
Ok so you had a very specific case related to bullying - not sure how all the details of what happened at primary school relate to an appeal for secondary school.
But you say you won because you did your research - so which is it? Because in a fair system it wouldn't matter how much research and hard work you did it would all be about the merrits of your case.
So how can you offer advice on winning appeals to parents who don't have the same bullying issue that your son did?
Because by doing so and repeatedly talking about coming first and having an answer for every question sounds very much to me like playing the system.
And I dare say it because I keep reading threads about appeals based on nothing more than a preference - and on each one you offer to help.
It's simply not possible for everyone to go to their preferred school.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
But you say you won because you did your research - so which is it? Because in a fair system it wouldn't matter how much research and hard work you did it would all be about the merrits of your case.
So how can you offer advice on winning appeals to parents who don't have the same bullying issue that your son did?
Because by doing so and repeatedly talking about coming first and having an answer for every question sounds very much to me like playing the system.
And I dare say it because I keep reading threads about appeals based on nothing more than a preference - and on each one you offer to help.
It's simply not possible for everyone to go to their preferred school.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
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Anonymous
13/03/2014 at 12:00 pm
In answer to
Angela O(79)
Sorry but how does it look like I was playing the system, I won my appeal because I had a good case, I won my appeal because I knew what I was doing.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
My main grounds for appeal was my son was severely badly bullied, we had the police involved as he was put in hospital 3 times in a month because he was nocked out at school by being hit, punched, he had broken ankles and on more than one occasion they was stamped on and plaster casts shattered queue another trip to hospital, and that's just a tiny bit of what happened to my son. I will not go into massive details on a public forum but what my son went through still affects him. In no way did I play the system, I had reports from the police as i got them involved as my son was nocked out and no teachers noticed. I had hospital letters to back me, i had the head teacher and 2 other teachers from the new school my son attended backing my appeal telling the appeal panel what a bad state of mind my son was in, i had reports from child councillors after my son threatened suicide. I take MASSIVE offence to being told i must have played the system you really have no idea what i went through to get my son into the correct secondary school. I won because i had the strongest case out of 76 different parents, i won because i worked my tits off to get the only right and acceptable result for me son. How DARE you say any different.
If you ask any of the other netmums that have sent me a PM asking for help that i didn't play the system, i just knew what i had to do for my son.
Again if anyone wants any help or advice ill happily try to help you. Please PM me.
I don't doubt your commitment to do the best for your ds but I find this puzzling.
To my knowledge the only way to win an appeal is if the admissions criteria are incorrectly applied, the criteria themselves are discriminatory or the admissions authority did something illegal. Then a place would only be issued if a place would have been offered if the rules had been followed correctly. In any event an appeals process is not a battle with other parents. Those with a case win. Those without don't.
To my mind the only other option would be if a child with additional needs needed to be placed in a particular school and the parents wanted that school named on a statement.
I'm honestly interested to know how this has transpired. I'm always willing to learn something new
To my knowledge the only way to win an appeal is if the admissions criteria are incorrectly applied, the criteria themselves are discriminatory or the admissions authority did something illegal. Then a place would only be issued if a place would have been offered if the rules had been followed correctly. In any event an appeals process is not a battle with other parents. Those with a case win. Those without don't.
To my mind the only other option would be if a child with additional needs needed to be placed in a particular school and the parents wanted that school named on a statement.
I'm honestly interested to know how this has transpired. I'm always willing to learn something new
Angela O(79)
13/03/2014 at 12:15 pm
In answer to
Anonymous
Ok so you had a very specific case related to bullying - not sure how all the details of what happened at primary school relate to an appeal for secondary school.
But you say you won because you did your research - so which is it? Because in a fair system it wouldn't matter how much research and hard work you did it would all be about the merrits of your case.
So how can you offer advice on winning appeals to parents who don't have the same bullying issue that your son did?
Because by doing so and repeatedly talking about coming first and having an answer for every question sounds very much to me like playing the system.
And I dare say it because I keep reading threads about appeals based on nothing more than a preference - and on each one you offer to help.
It's simply not possible for everyone to go to their preferred school.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
But you say you won because you did your research - so which is it? Because in a fair system it wouldn't matter how much research and hard work you did it would all be about the merrits of your case.
So how can you offer advice on winning appeals to parents who don't have the same bullying issue that your son did?
Because by doing so and repeatedly talking about coming first and having an answer for every question sounds very much to me like playing the system.
And I dare say it because I keep reading threads about appeals based on nothing more than a preference - and on each one you offer to help.
It's simply not possible for everyone to go to their preferred school.
typing on my phone - sorry about typos.
What happened at primary of course relates to secondary school, I ended up pulling my son out of his junior school and sending him to a different junior school, the progress that was made with my sons life was outstanding, the school did a lot of work with him to allow him to be a normal child in school, eat his lunch not locked in a toilet, it took him 4 months to put his hand in in his new school through feat of being laughed at. The school I appealed for was the nearest school, my DS was the only one out of 30 children in his year not to get that school, every single person that had helped my DS was going to this school however my DS was given a different school, this other school was right next to his old school where the bulling took place, his old school was the main feeder school for the school he had been offered, all the boys that bullied him was going to this other school, it would have to involve my DS getting a bus daily with these bullies with very low self asteam. My Ds was in a very bad place.
I offer to help on each one because it always is about preference, do you know why some of these people want there preferred school? No, the same that you didn't have any idea about my appeal, you didn't and still don't know what my my son went through, the suicide letters, the crying himself to sleep, the self harming himself so he didn't have to go to school the next day but you still think its ok to put that im plating the system.
Put your kids in my sons shoes and THEN tell me I played the system, watch your child harm himself, listen to your child cry himself to sleep, let your child lock himself in the toilet to eat his lunch at 9am in the morning as he knew it would be flushed down the toilet by lunch time and then let someone that has no idea what you and your child has been through tell you that you played the system and that's the only reason you won your appeal. THEN you will know what I am so upset about your flippant comments, you really have no idea.
I offer to help on each one because it always is about preference, do you know why some of these people want there preferred school? No, the same that you didn't have any idea about my appeal, you didn't and still don't know what my my son went through, the suicide letters, the crying himself to sleep, the self harming himself so he didn't have to go to school the next day but you still think its ok to put that im plating the system.
Put your kids in my sons shoes and THEN tell me I played the system, watch your child harm himself, listen to your child cry himself to sleep, let your child lock himself in the toilet to eat his lunch at 9am in the morning as he knew it would be flushed down the toilet by lunch time and then let someone that has no idea what you and your child has been through tell you that you played the system and that's the only reason you won your appeal. THEN you will know what I am so upset about your flippant comments, you really have no idea.